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Joy, thought/ feeling change best medicine for MS
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dnatree
2005-02-10 20:08:18 UTC
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When I met Pam she had trouble walking and her sight was failing. I
noticed certain aspects of her emotional state which I also noticed in
other MS patients I have met. We have been together for four years and
in that time the smallest of points overlooked has changed things so
that she now goes running with me and walking for miles and her eyes
were corrected by believing that it was something simple that was
overlooked. I believe that MS patients should let go of the veil of
interpretation about MS and look at their fears which emotionally
traumatise their bodies. Rather than reacting to things they should see
themselves as creating the illness through their emotions. Stop
thinking and start feeling only what feels wonderful and what they
desire in their lives. Joy is the best medicine for Pam. I found that
when she had symptoms of MS was when she went down a familiar corridor
of feelings of fear, but when she learned to not react to things and to
replace her fearful thoughts with thoughts of trusting her life and
realizing her thoughts were creating more of the same she dramatically
got better.
http://www.stephentree.com/
http://www.stephentree.com/abraham.htm
http://www.stephentree.com/pamela/
David S-H
2005-02-11 08:31:07 UTC
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You're almost absolutely right! My MS affects my moods quite dramatically.
It often makes me feel quite violent and agressive. Not about the disease
mind you, but about utter twats trying to sell some potion/life
coaching/happy philosophy. The trouble with those nasty little peddlars is
that they assume MS patients are to blame for their disease and should feel
guilty about not taking their advice/potion etc. Also that if they changed
their behaviour/diet/dietary supplement regime etc they'd live a long,
happy, able-bodied and fruitful life. Still, on the plus side the bile those
type of people produce in me does keep me angry enough not to give up hope.

Rgds
Post by dnatree
When I met Pam she had trouble walking and her sight was failing. I
noticed certain aspects of her emotional state which I also noticed in
other MS patients I have met. We have been together for four years and
in that time the smallest of points overlooked has changed things so
that she now goes running with me and walking for miles and her eyes
were corrected by believing that it was something simple that was
overlooked. I believe that MS patients should let go of the veil of
interpretation about MS and look at their fears which emotionally
traumatise their bodies. Rather than reacting to things they should see
themselves as creating the illness through their emotions. Stop
thinking and start feeling only what feels wonderful and what they
desire in their lives. Joy is the best medicine for Pam. I found that
when she had symptoms of MS was when she went down a familiar corridor
of feelings of fear, but when she learned to not react to things and to
replace her fearful thoughts with thoughts of trusting her life and
realizing her thoughts were creating more of the same she dramatically
got better.
http://www.stephentree.com/
http://www.stephentree.com/abraham.htm
http://www.stephentree.com/pamela/
KKT
2005-02-11 14:56:34 UTC
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Post by David S-H
You're almost absolutely right! My MS affects my moods quite dramatically.
It often makes me feel quite violent and agressive. Not about the disease
And can it be the other way around? Can mood affect MS? My vote is
"yes."

KKT
Post by David S-H
mind you, but about utter twats trying to sell some potion/life
coaching/happy philosophy. The trouble with those nasty little peddlars is
that they assume MS patients are to blame for their disease and should feel
guilty about not taking their advice/potion etc. Also that if they changed
their behaviour/diet/dietary supplement regime etc they'd live a long,
happy, able-bodied and fruitful life. Still, on the plus side the bile those
type of people produce in me does keep me angry enough not to give up hope.
Post by dnatree
When I met Pam she had trouble walking and her sight was failing. I
noticed certain aspects of her emotional state which I also noticed in
other MS patients I have met. We have been together for four years and
in that time the smallest of points overlooked has changed things so
that she now goes running with me and walking for miles and her eyes
were corrected by believing that it was something simple that was
overlooked. I believe that MS patients should let go of the veil of
interpretation about MS and look at their fears which emotionally
traumatise their bodies. Rather than reacting to things they should see
themselves as creating the illness through their emotions. Stop
thinking and start feeling only what feels wonderful and what they
desire in their lives. Joy is the best medicine for Pam. I found that
when she had symptoms of MS was when she went down a familiar corridor
of feelings of fear, but when she learned to not react to things and to
replace her fearful thoughts with thoughts of trusting her life and
realizing her thoughts were creating more of the same she dramatically
got better.
http://www.stephentree.com/
http://www.stephentree.com/abraham.htm
http://www.stephentree.com/pamela/
rose
2005-02-11 16:20:24 UTC
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Post by KKT
And can it be the other way around? Can mood affect MS? My vote is
"yes."
hi kathie,

in a minor, generic sense, i agree. when symptoms trouble me, if i'm in
basically a positive frame of mind, it's much easier to blow them off;
when i'm down and they rear up, they can seem so much worse than they
actually are.

in a specific sense regarding what 'stephen tree' has to say, horse
shit. when they want you to lay down money and take classes given
medium-style through 'a group of spirits who call themselves ABRAHAM'
in order to learn that we all create our own bodies and our own
destinies, and if we have a disease it's because we haven't learned to
'live in the spirit,' but CAN learn for a fee, and thus be 'cured'...no
way in heaven, hell, or earth am i falling for it.

i'll listen to positive thought gurus with a tolerant smile till the
scared cows come home, but when they post things to people who may be
desperate and ready to try anything, then take their money and fill
their heads full of crap i wouldnt even expect to hear from a new-age
stoner, then hose 'em.

anyone offering a 'spiritual cure' should offer it free of charge, as
a service to humanity. books, tapes, seminars...spend the money on yoga
class instead, and learn the real philosophy, if you like, rather than
watered down new-age psuedo eastern psycho babble combined with wiccan
altars and roses and cameos...well, following the links DID give me a
chuckle, and laughter is good medicine, so write on, mr. tree, just
don't try to sell snake oil or the kundalini serpent might get MAD at
you!! }:D

D. Yogini Padma Usha Suryananda, aka rose, the initiate who gives it
away for free, LOLOL
buffalo bob
2005-02-11 16:45:48 UTC
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Post by rose
anyone offering a 'spiritual cure' should offer it free of charge, as
a service to humanity. books, tapes, seminars...spend the money on yoga
class instead, and learn the real philosophy, if you like, rather than
watered down new-age psuedo eastern psycho babble combined with wiccan
altars and roses and cameos...well, following the links DID give me a
chuckle, and laughter is good medicine, so write on, mr. tree, just
don't try to sell snake oil or the kundalini serpent might get MAD at
you!! }:D
Come on Rose, let it out, tell us how you realy feel! Don't sugar-coat
it.

Good luck, Bob
Rob Duncan
2005-02-14 03:13:17 UTC
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Post by dnatree
When I met Pam she had trouble walking and her sight was failing. I
noticed certain aspects of her emotional state which I also noticed in
other MS patients I have met. We have been together for four years and
in that time the smallest of points overlooked has changed things so
that she now goes running with me and walking for miles and her eyes
were corrected by believing that it was something simple that was
overlooked. I believe that MS patients should let go of the veil of
interpretation about MS and look at their fears which emotionally
traumatise their bodies. Rather than reacting to things they should see
themselves as creating the illness through their emotions. Stop
thinking and start feeling only what feels wonderful and what they
desire in their lives. Joy is the best medicine for Pam. I found that
when she had symptoms of MS was when she went down a familiar corridor
of feelings of fear, but when she learned to not react to things and to
replace her fearful thoughts with thoughts of trusting her life and
realizing her thoughts were creating more of the same she dramatically
got better.
Thats the dumbest shit Ive ever read. Are you a comedian? It wasnt funny.


Rob
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2018-09-19 18:33:14 UTC
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Came back many years later to say
If you do not have true intention of heart toward SPIRIT then get off this planet
http://dnatree.blogspot.com/2017/05/the-get-of-this-planet-synch.html
https://dnatree.blogspot.com/search?q=The+American+Media+on+the+left+must

I know how silly you will think all these predictions that came true are now
So since you could not be reached
http://dnatree.blogspot.com/2017/08/20-yrs-could-not-reach-america.html

I have left the struggle
stephentree.com/struggle

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